Being as there is no need to reinvent the wheel, I am going to post what Tobias said so many years ago about the trauma associated with the Wall of Fire. It's pretty much perfect. After that I will share my own experience on well beyond the wall of fire. I do not feel so attached to that concept, but I've had many other things come up in regard to trauma and the Will of God. For those who find comfort in matching a Crimson Circle teaching to their experience (all perspectives welcome), the full text can be found for free on the Crimson Circle website. I had not read this, yet I sensed a trauma when I was traveling related to Divine Will. We were still on Patreon. Karen, being a wealth of information, found this for us. Thank you. After this, I will be sharing my own personal stories. More than anything, I have spent time pondering sovereignty in the absence of human free will. I highly suggest it if you have not done so in full awareness. ___Tobias' Story____ "When Jack crossed through the Wall of Fire, as we have talked about so often, this was a very traumatic experience for him. When Jack crossed through this wall from the First Creation into the void, it changed everything, it changed everything. When Jack was in the kingdom all things were one; all things were one. There was singular purpose, there was singular direction and there was singular Will. All things emanated outwards from the center of the kingdom. This was wonderful, this was peaceful and loving and it was the way things were in the first circle, in the first Creation. They were as one, as one will. When Jack crossed over through the Wall of Fire into the void he suddenly had a new attribute and it was called Free Will. This is somewhat difficult to describe in the human words, but we will continue work it. When Jack crossed through he now had the attributes of Free Will. It was no longer singular expansion of All That Is. He entered into a new dimensionality. Jack had always been the prince, the son of the king and queen, the one who would one day accept the throne. But now he was experiencing something totally different -- Free Will. He did not quite so much know how to handle this. For he always thought he understood his Mission, his purpose and his contract in the singular will of the Kingdom. But now, all things were available and all things possible. There was no prescribed path or pattern. Jack’s journey is your journey. Each of you felt what it was like to go from One Will to Free Will. This has caused many interesting experiences for you. This has caused you to be a free creator in many ways and all of this has been appropriate. All of this is blessed by Spirit. For given Free Will – you and Jack and all the other angels and all of the humans – given Free Will you have been able to expand creation in ways and means that have never been done before. Do you understand the impact of this? You had singular Will – loving indeed, blessed indeed – but it was singular in the original Creation. When you came through the wall you were given Free Will. When Jack came to Earth and took on biology, he still had Free Will, but now he also had something called the veil. The veil prevented Jack from consciously knowing what transpired from lifetime to lifetime. The veil prevented Jack from understanding his journey that had taken him from the Kingdom into the void, to help create the energy and the templates of your Universe. Combine these two powerful elements – the Veil and Free Will – and there is a very potent energy here. It is one that each of you has been living with. You have the Free Will to do what you choose. But you have also had the veil so you could not remember so much your decisions and your experiences. Now, here you are, Shaumbra, coming to the completion of your own circle of lifetimes on Earth. You are coming to completion of your journey, coming to the final clearings that will allow you to go to new understandings. As we have said to you before, you do not return home from here. You continue going forward. You continue expanding but there will come the point when the veil is released, when you do have an understanding of your journey, you do have more of a complete understanding of who you are and why you are here. In the meantime, here you are going through many changes in your life right now, going through many challenges. You expected this ascension process to be one way and it is another. It is not what you thought it would be! As you come full circle, dear friends, there is something interesting that happens. There is a step that you will take. There is a step that we bring to you today. From the inside, it is one that you know is coming, but it must be conveyed from the outside for confirmation. That step is quite simple. Going into the new energy to be the creator you truly are, you need to step past Free Will into your Divine Will."
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Xavi
11/21/2017 13:35:01
It is very curious, these days, I do not know very well where, I have read or heard Adamus say that we do not have Free Will, that we gave up it a long time ago, and I also remind him that there is no such thing as the Veil.
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Lauren
11/21/2017 13:46:39
Adamus said in the 2010 channel Karen sent that free will was an illusion but when we think we have free will is does in fact exist in the limited human perception, so that's what Tobias was addressing. All of it feels to mental. If we take it as scripture the art is lost. Tobias shared in 2003 and Adamus seven years later, so they are addresses people where they were in the consciousness of the audience, so of course, it will not be in line.
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Xavi
11/22/2017 01:35:52
The truth is that I do not know what Yogi Bhajan said about the Divine Will. If he talked about it he should be masked with some other word, and his talks were aimed at different environments. Some were his students in the 70s, who were hippie and drug addicts. Others in the environment of their religion, addressing those issues.
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Xavi
11/22/2017 01:40:41
accept the negative.
Lauren
11/22/2017 06:11:37
Very interesting, Xavi. I tend to not stress about where my soul come from but I was once in a Keahak group and they debated it fiercely. You would give them a run for the money. Thanks always for adding your perspective. I am here now in this experience, and it doesn't matter the tales.
Guillem
11/21/2017 13:58:52
Pretty much perfect, yes. It feels good. It is for the human to own Divine Will. Thank you!
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Sylvia
11/22/2017 00:36:50
I had a dream tonight about leaving oneness and stepping into free will. I was hiking with a group and suddenly I found myself in a building climbing up stairs. I found out it was a tower and I became very mad at my parents because my human self doesn't like height at all. Finally I found my mom and I shouted at her. Don't you love me at all? You know I hate towers. You should have prevented me from this if you love me. My mom answered: You could have read the sign before you entered the building. It says this is a tower. You could have decided to stay outside.
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Lauren
11/22/2017 06:12:53
Sylvia - what a dream. I see it as quite vivid in my third eye. Must have been quite the experience. I love these shares. Thank you.
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AlmaSabina
11/22/2017 10:37:35
This reminds me (not wanting to seem like I'm paraphrasing), in a shaud Adamus made it clear that the Divine Will was choosing us and not the other way around, I share the point of view with that in the end the human had no choice beyond the small human things, and (at the risk of appearing redundant) I believe reaffirms that free will is only a human illusion.
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Lauren
11/22/2017 17:39:36
I had a similar experience - in the end choice was an illusion. for the human.
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Guillem
11/22/2017 13:38:47
It keeps coming this distillation from this post:
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Les
7/3/2018 14:56:12
http://gejirin.com/spirit/SPR_src/D/divine_will.htm
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Lauren
7/4/2018 00:00:39
Hey Les, what’s your wisdom? This is the place to share it.
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Les Montgomery
7/4/2018 08:05:48
you are right Lauren
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KAREN - LES WIFE
7/4/2018 11:42:07
Karen here. I haven’t officially joined this group yet because I thought Lauren was out of town until later in the month. I was waiting until then to officially join.
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Lauren
7/4/2018 12:01:26
Love this share! Thank you so much for your personal stories and unique wisdom. Your son! Wow... I am traveling and only have my iPhone. I need the computer to access the website from the back end. Thanks for your patience. I do check my emails every other day so I was able to read this. I’m so glad you both joined. We have kind of created our own expression and these personal insights are so welcome. ❤️
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