Conversations of No Separation

9/2/2018

We though a video might clear up any questions about this space evolution and the in-person gathering. Also, a request for feedback below. An invitation to Enjoy as much as we did recording it.

23 Comments

Xavi

9/3/2018 02:27:04

Good video, I enjoyed it. I would not honor who I am if I did not say a couple of things that I do not like.

The first is advice to improve the quality of the video: Lauren, use headphones during the recordings. During the video sometimes your voice is cut and I think it's because you're listening to Joanna audio output on the computer speakers. Joanna has the headphones and I can listen to her pristine all the time.

What I do not like about Ryver: I know this is my personal opinion and many will not like what I am going to say. I do not like the Ryver chat.
On the one hand it serves to develop friendship between us. And that would be the only good thing.
The trouble is that you have to read too many personal comments, and personal remarks here, to find a Pearl of Wisdom from time to time. If you disconnect from the chat for a day, then you have too much work to catch up. Let's not talk about if these were two weeks.
I started to feel like I was a slave to Ryver's chat and that I would never allow myself to have my own life while I was still using the chat. Maybe there are people who can have a life and keep using and reading the chat. I could not because I spent all day reviewing the Ryver, having nothing better to do, but not allowing myself to have other experiences. So I choose to walk away from it for a time.
From the very moment we paid Ryver's one-year subscription, I felt we should not have done it. That we should have let it end there.
Then you have so many private cross-talks among yourselves that you mention in the group conversations and in many occasions I feel that there are missing pieces of information to understand something of what you are talking about. I feel a little Lost in Translation in the Ryver, specially if I don't read all.

But hey, I understand this evolution because it is no longer about writing articles with their definitions about Realization. It is about sharing in a more causal way. Hope you can find a balance with that.

Regarding the question about what I do here and what use I give to this space.

Well, previously I helped to create the bases of it, and I spent some time in the Banyan where some Masters visited me from time to time. With the passage of time I started to not even want so much the interaction with others. When one appeared, it felt more like a nuisance.

Regarding now, I would not know how to say. For months now I have not been aware where this Creation was evolving and although you have tried to define it with human words, I do not understand at all. The video helps a bit but truly I do not know.

I will definitely give Joanna's creation a chance, although I do not think I'm going to participate actively, at least for now. I will take a role more of an Observer right now.

Lauren

9/3/2018 08:12:45

The space was made to enhance your experience with yourself, if you are digging around Ryver for a wisdom pearl, seeking things outside of self, that boomerang effect occurs. You are a grand being, a break is a wise decision, to really allow all of you to come in. Smart! I hope you don't waste this very special life being jaded. I will definitely look into a headset, thank you.

Eiril

9/3/2018 02:54:15

Hara Chrisna parade :D

Love this conversation. Videos are fantastic - how do you record on Skype ?
I have lot``s of realisations ahas and integrations these days.

Lauren

9/3/2018 08:14:02

Thanks, Eiril, we recorded it on Zoom. And I want to acknowledge your contributions through both your words and the essence in the art you have made for this space. Thank you!

Christiane

9/3/2018 04:37:54

Hi, my heart was swelling up when I started listen to this:after 2 days in a foggy bubble:)) I sat down this morning feeling allowing deeply into myself. in short it was the awareness that all Want experience is Now (Futur Now like mentioned in ML7 felt like dissolving, ) IAm Realised, already. For couple of days words I felt coming in, IA all already...and all I want is JUST MYSELF, nothing else ..and while sitting and allowing come in all this the fogginess was washed out and a clarity and clearness came in..even deep inside my cells. Crystaline was what came to me.
I really appreciate the conversation..it made some things clearer for me. I got it : had some difficulties to get through the article Lauren shared in Keahak Forum, I couldn't finish reading some of it I could sense,

Then for me this place here is like creating another dimensional "World" coexisting in this reality..and when its time the curtain drops and will be OPEN for the rest in this reality. Simply asJoanna mentioned through conversations like you 2 did now.
I feel really save here..and while sharing its not the Christiane Human, but my IAM..words just flow out.
I would like to have more of these chats with us me you all..and I commit myself now to more openly finally share what I AM, sense and KNOW. Holding back even when interacting in every day life with others feels "wrong".
So this is what I want share. XXX

Lauren

9/3/2018 08:15:08

The flower in bloom that is you! Thank you for sharing yourSelf with us and your experience of muchness, Christiane.

Maureen

9/3/2018 11:09:47

Really loved your share Christiane and the way you expressed yourself!

Joanna

9/10/2018 09:44:49

Love every word Chrisitane.

Les Montgomery

9/3/2018 08:17:10

I love it here under the Banyan tree and also on the ryver ride, and I wonder often times did I find it or did it find me. I have this analogy of a tuning fork, all of us are like tuning forks we have our own resonance,,. When the human realizes that we are a tuning fork ( soul ) our resonance changes. It's like I'm this tuning fork but I'm holding it in my fist, and it cannot ring true,,,. this thing of realization happens when the human realizes, oh I'm a tuning fork and I take my hand off of it now the resonance is sharp and true. Now we can stumble around and try to put words and to define this in to define that. anyone can pick up the book or a script and read it words are just words but if the one reading it has taken their human off of the tuning fork the words and the resonance will ring true, instead of a dull thud. I am on many Facebook pages and I go to many websites and a lot of people are saying the same things that you and I are saying that yet the resonance is not true, they have all the right words but they are lost as geese in a snowstorm. SO,,it's your resonance baby, I like your vibe ;-)

Lauren

9/3/2018 08:36:33

Yeah, baby - in my best Austin Powers voice....Geese in s snow storm:) Oh man that made me smile.

RuthRaven

9/3/2018 10:50:33

Wow,oh Wow!! I listened to your conversation after a long day and wondered if I'd be too tired to get through it... But I was riveted! There is a great connection as your conversation goes back and forth, and you each are able to verbalize and articulate in your individual style. Together you provide an understanding in this language with verbiage that is evolving and emerging as you speak.
You both are" way-showers" and encouraging others who are going through similar experiences and inspiring still others on the path. I say keep these conversation coming. There are many more subjects that could use some discussion and "light" shone on them.
I particularly liked the discussion of the "drip, drip, drip" of enlightenment. Our physical bodies need to be tuned UP to take all this awareness and I do feel that I daily am experiencing a great deal of that! Sometimes the JOY is just too much to contain.
Thank you for this safe space.
I do support some of what Xavi was saying about the Ryver site. I find it too time consuming and don't like spending my precious time on line so much. But then when I am in the mood it's nice to tap into the conversations if it can happen in an expeditious way.

Lauren

9/3/2018 11:06:28

Thanks, Ruth. This is helpful and I appreciate your comments. Perhaps we can have searchable topics on the new space so when you do drop in if there is something you might be pondering it is easier to find.

Joanna

9/10/2018 09:43:09

Thanks so much Ruth.. glad you enjoyed it.

Gabor

9/6/2018 04:32:16

Aloha Dear ONES,

yes and yes. it is absolutely fabulous for me to hear and feel you saying the thing you say in this video chat.
oh, that's where it gets interesting again and some fire of inspiration, passion and play and interest in flowing sparkling inSPIRITating ;) interconnection is ignited and kindled again.
Especially for me those core sharings about the perpetual becoming in being , continous infilling and expanding with and in consciousness(es) at multilevels and layers and the converging awareness of our own 'multidimensional' multitimelined, multiplicity of self and its Pandelution by that and so much more... also the realities flowing through as you describe..
there the CREATION comes into playful feeling for me.
that s where it is so interesting and freeflowing opportunity to let our creation contribute in our masterpiece ways and not any less ,.... excellence .. that's where it's at (for me). exellence... there is an opportunity there which is rare and sought after for master creator like us.
ha. (more writing from my intuition)
so... these depths in sharing are attractive for me. and there i need the absolute safe space and sovereign sharing partner , which by that become creation partners.
i feel like that also one of the main attractors that pulled me to lauren and those space creations since patreon and so on.
i mainly supported and contributed energetically, holding space and support for this creation and the main actors, mostly lauren and enjoyed and welcomed the connection and coplaying , cosupporting of all the contributors, especially for me also the not so embodied ones.
holy
sacred space
in fun up to date masterly way..
like the center of being - being... which i felt and hoped it would become a more manifested place as well
an etherical meeting place (like on theos or smth) it kind of was and is.. (the old etheric ashram thing but much nicer..)
and then now it is the banyan actually.
what a grand creation.
so .. having chances to encounter other sovereign creators in fun and joy and depth, in ether(banyan), online, and in physical being in a free safe space ... ! that is so valuable and welcome and supportive and raises opportunities for the real fun of sovereign collective creation.
i am really happy about your video sharing, also for kind of getting to know and feel and appreciate joanna more.
so great. that is helpful to build trust, connection and open up ..
AND the conversation of you two realized embodied beings (or whatever to call it) is also already a grand creation and kindles(?) the interest or the desire for more of that and to participate, it is really palpable, strong to feel the creation value of that... big possible impact potential maybe on an energetic and direct level for many.
so..
the ryver chat is nice somehow.. it is something to connect again and again, to not feel so alone on that path..
and so many great topics and resources and sharing were collected there..
for me it is not really the real thing where my fire gets sparked.
i felt it more easy for me to write here on the site in the comments than on ryver, even if i didnt do even that so often and not for quite a while now..
the whole thing is also going through many waves and layers of pandelution i feel, the site has changed and evolved and ryver and as the main actors as the contributors as the group..
becoming..
so it is appropriate and very fitting to set up something new and i am sooo glad that you joanna are mainly taking charge of that , for the energetics are in my view the most important part of such a creation .
for the new creation iteration of a sovereign collective space..
i wish for a top level of clarity in energy and structure and guidance.
so that it is totally clear where to feel for the right place to share things... a place for the 'deep' stuff and a place for everyday multihuman stuff (which is totally welcome and needed on many days when it feels like),
an easy to find and adaptable structure, like differents rooms in a sacred village... for the human stuff you go to the bar, for fun to the theater, for deep being and sharing your innermost realizations to the temple maybe, for more divine mental stuff to the university and so on...
so that a house or room can evolve and develope as it lives...
anyway , like we see with the banyan, splaces ( creations) can be or become beings.
so it is easy to feel the resonances and clarity..

ah.. maybe also, invite only rooms( in the village)? if that makes sense.. like those alchemy cocreation laboriums yaknow for example... whatever ;)

ok. so far.

THANK YOU SOO MUCH.

for going forward, taking that inspiration and turning into creation and holding the flames and ... you know <3 :)

in love and gratitude and honor

blessings

GABOR

Lauren

9/6/2018 08:11:58

Gabor, thanks so very much for that Grand picture feedback. I won't speak for Joanna - okay I will - we both wonder if people understand, see and contribute to what this really is about. Sovereign beings coming together beyond realization and sharing creation, not just for self - yes, that too - but in ushering in a new consciousness through the roots of the Banyan tree. You words and stream make me know it is received. Deeply appreciated.

Gabor

9/6/2018 12:31:05

Yeah Lauren, totally <3
Eben just for the grand joy of taking/using THAT VERY RARE opportunity flow of bringing to use one's ageslong/multilevels wide refined creator skills . And create/allow to be created GRANDEST masterpieces.. the ultimate satisfying experiences.. With fun in joy, in sovereign connection, free.
And it feels so long time prepared and prearranged in some ways. AND it is completely new and different and unexpected in so many ways.
Dynamic steering (from holacracy) comes to mind. And true agenda free creation is that. So the pure joy of being creation in (? How . Still ask some parts..) some magical mysterious combination with clearly choosing ... (what?)
Well... New
Not really before experienced, I guess..
So there is some demand for more clarification and maybe guidance tips into experience .

Part of it being 'pancreation' (just came up) - letting it be created and unfolded from the future now also.

Off course! Just not used to it yet so much after being in those cocoon decades ;) .

I would love to flow on those inspiring fire activating themes freestyling sovereign collectively somehow some now.
Yeah, potential! Come here! Haha ;)

Thank you!

PS.. Going through rather heavy flu like cleansings for some days now maybe since watching last shoud and now finishing ML7 and Mikael s 'go' call through Robert .. [by the way those things about Mikael you started to mention.. woke my curiosity]
Fascinating times these days..

Let's allow creation in creation. (calling myself :)

Hugs and blessings
GABOR

Joanna

9/10/2018 09:51:56

Gabor! Thanks so much--felt every word (right in the chest!) Lauren did indeed speak for me and I totally echo the sentiment: Deeply appreciated. I don't want to get too long here.. but sure there will be many more conversations in the future about all this. Much love to you!

Sylvia

9/10/2018 23:44:42

I liked the video a lot 😍 I don't find words easily so this is why I don't share so much. You put into words what I feel and also as you said you open new pathways by the conversation. It gave me a lot.

Joanna

9/14/2018 13:25:52

Yes, we know how hard it is to find the right words for sure! So happy you received something from it. Glad you are here!

Momo

9/16/2018 17:53:49

Seems Im a little behind the wave...in the "slip stream" perhaps? ....on this video.
And now it is not visible/available.
I'd really love to view it...been sooo looking forward to that... and waited till today when the time felt ripe.
Do you know what happened?
Any chance of seeing it still dear hearts?

Joanna

9/17/2018 18:15:18

Momo it's back up for a while...sorry I changed the settings as we thought everyone was done seeing it.

Momo

9/18/2018 12:38:00

Thank you so much dear Joanna and Lauren for posting and re-posting...
Its a truly profound transmission that I would like to listen to a number of times actually.
Having both of you speaking like a verbal duet of co-creative clarification, play and revelation...moved me deeply.
This verbal "duet" dove deep into my consciousness and inner conversations of my nature, body, realization, experience, embodiment...
Resonating and moving in dissolving patterns of separation, identity, thought...and action.
It is in complete alignment with an edge I am living on...surfing the edge between incarnation, excarnation and all creation.
I see you both as amazing surfers...out here on waves together...its awesome, beautiful, compelling, fun, inspiring and super intimidating too!
It's so awesome to be conversing about this....
Let's continue to experience, honor, converse about this more.

As for Ryver. I find I only visit there very rarely in past month or 2... As some others mentioned too...
I am much more inclined to read and comment on these pages of Third Circle/Being Enlightenment website.

Joanna

9/23/2018 11:22:07

Thanks so much Momo! Lovely writing.. thanks for your input too. Noted and I actually prefer the same as you, even though I'm on the other a lot.

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