A CALL FOR WISDOM: Joanna + Lauren

4/8/2018

In the last week or so I have been lending a lot of conscious breath (Thanks, Guillem!) to what we are creating here at the Banyan Tree. I sense your wisdom, and I read it everyday in the comments here and on Ryver. Este and Karen have written poems. Momo has danced away identity. Raphaelle recently wrote a song about it she is recording, which I will share here. So good!!

Right now all that wisdom has been put into the creation of our beloved Banyan Tree, yet I want to capture it beyond the fragments in comments, shares, etc. So I posted this on the Ryver forum:

Recently, I read a book, Balthasar: The Magus, and the story of the three wisemen (and more) written by Marisa Calvi (a friend) and told by Ascended Master Kuthumi. At the end of the book something really struck me. Kuthumi's soul in Balthasar's body realized at the end of the book that the three wisemen (3 sovereign souls) had come together to create an experience that would usher in the new conscious brought forth by Yeshua's birth and his role on Earth.

He said each of these three souls came together in creation and that creation had it's own soul. They were three unique flames in a fire of creation and that fire had a soul and each of the flames as spirit individualized. I bring it up because I have been sensing so keenly that the Banyan Tree has started to have it's own soul, it's own consciousness.

The soul is filled with the wisdom of each of our souls, AND we do not lose ourselves in the experience but enjoy from a place of individualized spirit or sovereign souls. It is our creation to enjoy! And it creates a pathway for lack of a better word for those choosing consciousness over automation for eons to come as well as those who are moving beyond firm group identities into their sovereign states. Simply GRAND!

And like El Morya always reminds me, it's time to allow creations the same sovereignty we allow ourselves. It is only then that the tree will thrive. It is only in allowing the sovereignty of the creation, such as the Banyan Tree, that we move beyond agenda, control and more so, we are not building something anymore with plans and constructed blue prints, we are allowing a creation to bloom from our unique states of being. I'd love to hear from you all on this one before forming a full post. A call for wisdom contributions, if you would like.

Joanna, answered and she captured what I have been sensing in words, and we have decided to gather the wisdom up and put it into a book - PDF I will send out and publish on this website - in the summer.

Here was her response/ wisdom contribution/ so much more:

I had a dream a month or so back, and St. G said to me “You each have a clean drop of this consciousness now; it’s up to you what you do with it.”

Back in 2010 he also told me (through Geoff) that I should write the books I was planning (that I never did), BUT that I would be involved in something that would bring me much more fulfillment. Imagine that. (Lauren here: Indeed, Joanna - my books now feel like a tiny little side gig and not my full creation.)

When I read Lauren’s post about the Himalayas, with the similarity of the St. G message for her, her experience of not quite knowing until now what was being created, and now with the Banyan Soul, it has brought together all I’ve been seeing and hearing over the last few years also. I also began to write with a group of sovereign beings, but at the time I didn’t know there were other humans involved! I’m loving this unfoldment.

Coming together in sovereignty and the birthing of the new. My ultimate passion, both in creating outwardly and within myself. Yep, myself. (Lauren again: such a better definition and words than old divine will - thank you! - I AM CREATION.)

What I see, so far, is this: What we are creating here is entirely new. I don’t fully know what that ‘new’ is yet, just know that it is. While there is nothing new in enlightenment, so to speak, there IS something new afterwards. (YES!)

There IS something brand new that is created when sovereign beings gather. The difference between how this was done before to birth something on Earth, is that this comes from a space within that is entirely free from the past and identity….even before Earth. Now that we are in a new energy from the ones before, gathering like this actually creates another “clean” consciousness…..for any being to access eventually. (OUR LEGACY - El Morya adds)

It is a clean slate - no past, no identity, no story, no old idea of ‘family’. It’s like we go back to ‘original’ but with consciousness and awareness. Because even within enlightenment, and awareness and pulling one’s self together, we tend to have definitions of ourselves that are limiting, until we don’t anymore.

It is no mistake that there is so much coming up for many regarding identity and regarding how we relate to each other in sovereignty, and that sovereignty isn’t what we thought it was.

We are creating this entire space of existence where none of what we have created before exists anymore, except the wisdom. Quite literally, timelines are being disintegrated. This may take some time to trickle down to awareness in full. And of course, it is as we are, always always morphing, changing and becoming.

The beauty is, we don’t know what it will look like. We are making it up as we go along. So there is more here, that I just don’t see yet and that hasn’t been created yet. And I am totally excited to see what it becomes and hear what it has to say.

Yes there is the living in mastery and joy and realizing all these things about being here in freedom… and many many are here just to enjoy that and experience the unfolding of who they are in human form…but many of us are going to the next space of existence…and we can also experience that from HERE.

And we will begin to understand the new we are creating within ourselves as BEINGS also.

For a few years now, I’ve been going to this place of what I (as an integrated being) am going to create myself to be. I am combining my core essence with any other I choose…to create something new within myself and to be whatever/whoever I want to be…and from that come the new creations. And there’s always a good chance I’ll be surprised.

So like we are all combining our wisdom to create this new soul, I do the same within myself.

THANK YOU, JOANNA! When I read this yesterday, I wanted to allow it to sink in a few days before sharing, and then I ws too excited this morning not to put it out.

I am crying knowing that someone else sees the creation, touches and tastes it in a similar way - and is a hell of a lot better at explaining it. Sometimes when we get so close to something, when we are so in the creation, it's hard to see the grand design of it all. Joanna can and did.

And I know you all SEE it too, so we are asking for your contributions for a book that we will put together. You can add art. poems, links to music, and anything that can go into a PDF or weblink. Please send those in by May 21. In the meantime, we have two New Moon Gatherings that you can inJOY and share about - April 16 and May 15.

If you are new, check out the Banyan Tree, New Moon and click on the Banyan Tree Category for all article related - or wait until it comes out in e-book form.

With our human journalism backgrounds (too funny!), Joanna and I are going to compile the creation publication. I will include the full story of the history of the Banyan Tree - El Morya came to me in September 2017 to bring forth the idea.

I will go through your shares and comments dating back to September, yet if you could email me your comments and experiences (dreams, senses, etc) at beingenlightenment@gmail.com, I would be so appreciative (takes some of the digging work out...). This will also be sent out to new members as they come in as there has been a bit of confusion as to what the Banyan Tree is and how we are creating it with each conscious breath.

More to come!

If you have not read Balthasar The Magus, you can do so here if it calls to you: www.amazon.com/Balthasar-Magus-Lets-Walk-Three/dp/0980350654

I just noticed the publishing date on the book - September 30, 2013. It's quite funny because El Morya showed up on my doorstep for the first time in my adult human life on October 3, 2013. What we are birthing is so much grander than our human self can know.

Love and gratitude from us all.

54 Comments

Joanna

4/8/2018 10:03:07

Wow.. I'll say it again: when I first came 'here' and had the recognition I did I was blown away.. it was like THE THING I was waiting for was here. At first there were no words for what I was feeling, and I almost wanted to deny it in some way, like don't get your hopes up hahaha (implant talking lol.. who knew). While for about 3-ish years I've been playing with all of this, (some of this article was written in 2016) there was still the 'only me' part of this (as we all go through with whatever, and of course it never is!)...wondering if I was full of shit. SO ... it goes both ways there there are others who see/feel it too. and tears.... with a little 'UH, YA' from El Moyra et. al. I really felt the OUR LEGACY in my gut..he packed a punch with that one! Your notes are priceless.

There is another wave of this coming in as we speak...WOW. I'll be back. !!

4/8/2018 10:47:08

And I say all these years and the linear thing, mainly to point out, to whoever is reading, if you feel like you don't have 'awareness' about what this all about.. there are most likely inklings that have occurred to you, that possibly you couldn't define, that have occurred for a while now. As Lauren is also saying...For example: just feeling that this space was different in some way, or a connection to someone here, or whatever. There will be markers along the way to help you come into awareness of what is occurring here. I didn't see the full picture here in what would manifest outwardly and I had to be open to recognizing that while it appears that Lauren, Sar'h and El Moyra created the space, that I was also apart of it, and so is everyone here.

I knew that with the beginnings of the book it flowed and then pootered out...I judged myself here thinking I got distracted or that I should be able to do it by myself. But I also remember saying quite distinctly 'ya, but I sure as hell don't want to do it by myself'. And this was because it was never intended to do by 'oneself'... it's a collaboration. But then there was the pull, the 'anger' or whatever created from the implant, where the fears of creating another aspected 'family' type scenario were present. And then now that I have disintegrated this implant, something really clicked into place...within my chest, heart... the 'missing link' I called it, where I could bring in a consciousness and share it without all the, well, crap...outwardly and within myself. Before I would have a trepidation about sharing this, not because of a fear of sharing or even a doubt, it was a bracing for the 'backlash'....which actually did occur, on a very tiny scale lol, which was enough, when I shared this boundary-less sovereignty consciousness before.

So Lauren...so in awe that you stepped out and laid down this initial foundation for all of this. Muchos huevos! Enormous love and honour from me.

So I'm certain as more is unveiled or created...well 'prepared to be wowed' is no understatement!

Lauren

4/12/2018 08:00:54

Joanna, it took me so long to write back because I am simply in awe that you see what I see, you hear the same song of creation. I have so much more to say, but it is not unpacked. Instead, and I know you already feel this without me having to type this - deep gratitude. I do think the publication will bring light to the creation which already exists as an expression of soul freedom combined. Unique flames in one fire. THANK YOU!

Karen

4/8/2018 11:15:47

Oh wow...I am (and have) been "feeling" it. Not with "sight" as some of you do with specifics of images. But deep within my heart and my knowingness that flame of "aha", that connection. So thanks Joanna, I am perceiving my inklings. Elisheva in the Introductions asked you the question of how you receive your guidance. And that made me ponder how I received mine. (Thanks Elisheva...great question!) I receive mine in my heart, in my knowingness, and I sense a deep resonance or non-resonance within my body. And that continues to expand as my awareness of it expands.

As I was pondering "roles" the other day, not identities, but roles in the context of legacy, I felt deeply within me that I was part of this space here albeit not completely clear of any specifics around that "role". And it doesn't really matter other than the knowingness of my participation in this creation and the heart connection that I feel.

Much to feel into here, so enough words for now. Thanks for the share both of you.

4/8/2018 11:56:30

Soooo fabulous Karen! Love the 'flame of aha'...sounds like a chapter of a book ;).

Roles in the context of legacy...I see what you were saying now. Perfect. Yes, not sure any are so defined as of yet, or maybe they never will be...but agree with Lauren that they still exist...and love the way you named it.

Have to note that when I say 'see', I get somewhat of an image, but it's from a different place... it's more holistic, a combination...(and I'm going over to answer the question right now...great it is).

4/12/2018 10:14:01

Joanna, as I was pondering this the other day and something else gelled for me...it's not a "role" per se that I play in legacy, it is my contribution aka creation. Here in this group and also out there in the world. For example, my involvement in the Ministry is something my human walks through and participates in, and as double duty my I Am is creating/contributing as a natural expression within the framework of that Ministry which leaves a whole lot of potential there is someone were to pick it up or respond to it.

4/12/2018 08:04:07

Karen, I don't necessarily see it in any way I have ever before. It's more like I can taste it - that's to say it is more of an experience. The tree of FREEDOM, the imprint of what comes 'after' the student role. I thought that role would be teacher, but that was just another duality. What comes 'after' is creation. Perhaps that is the ultimate gift of freedom the tree lends us - the creation experience. More to come and in honor of you - writing the book of tree wisdom from day one, or day zero in the absence of linearity. THANK YOU!

4/12/2018 19:59:13

Love that Karen.

4/12/2018 20:12:33

Lauren... yes I feel ya! Letting things settle. :)

4/12/2018 23:02:46

Thanks Lauren for this additional "tidbit" and description. It has expanded my awareness. I remember when you first started writing about The Center for Being on Patreon during 30 Days of Self Love...or perhaps just after that. At the time you were looking for a physical space. And my sense of it back then was that it was an etheric space that was being created, and it didn't matter if there was a physical space or not. So interesting to be riding along this wave/river with you and the others and seeing how it is all unfolding and expanding.

Xanthe

4/8/2018 11:54:06

My immediate response is Wow! So glad For the words Joanna, so many clickety clacks, remembering something forgot to share re snow experience got one morning, cause it was an inkling and was waiting for more, which here it is lol!
That we were on the leading edge and something was more anchored now.
Yeah!
And i too pondered that question Karen and came up immediately with sensing, knowing, taking the action and discovering in the unfoldment, such fun!

There is more to say I know, for now i wish to simply express such gratitude for you both!!!! This all just feels so delicious and so good to have the words to go with the feeling and sensing and being in it!! Thank you Joanna! ♥️♥️♥️

4/8/2018 11:59:29

Just remembered something, my passion for this work by a woman who for me showed me in this timeline what was possible as an experience in relating and so much more, yet i share to say, once came into centre of being space, that went and now see why!

LAUREN

4/12/2018 08:06:23

That we were on the leading edge and something was more anchored now" - XANTHE -I sense this too but I am still making my way around the anchor. The more light bulbs that light up in soul passion - like you and Joanna (so delighted you both are here - total shift in consciousness since you both arrived at the holy fuck enormity) - the better I can "see" our creation. THANK YOU.

4/12/2018 20:14:05

haha Clickity Clacks X! Something more anchored for sure.. <3

Guillem

4/8/2018 11:56:03

Wow, Lauren and Joanna, this post feels very exciting. I can sense the deeper layers in your words, Joanna. I will have to read this again. Don't know if it has anything to do with this specifically, but a few things to share: the first time I saw your video, Joanna, I sensed very clearly a space of consciousness, like a city of light or something, located above the Alps, in Switzerland or in the central part of Europe. I wonder if the Banyan Tree would be there in a way..., or maybe it has to do with something about New Earth, or the Himalayas, where I'm sure there are some other consciousness portals we all participate in. And it is also true I have felt drawn to travel to Switzerland - without knowing why - these past few years, though I haven't yet. And another thing to share Lauren is this date of October 2013 is also significant for me. It was exactly when my soul kicked me out of the linear timeline I was in with a job, a girlfriend, etc. I had to leave everything behind with a lot of kicking and screaming from my human. And I've been wandering since like a "lost soul" (a way of speaking) with no linear place or identity. Yes, I remember well it was on October 2013. As for the Banyan Tree consciousness, it will be very exciting to see how this all unfolds, oh yes! And I feel like adding hey let's not make it a mental thing.

Susann

4/8/2018 12:18:23

Ha ... Guillem .... I feel the desire or the need ot move and feel atracted to the Bodensee. It is a lake at the Swiss border and you can see the Swiss Alps from the Germain side. And today I could see me also standig in the Swiss Alps and it felt so good. And I remembered that I was "called" to this Point already some years ago, but so far I have not gone there yet. ... ;-) ...

Sylvia

4/8/2018 12:44:49

Me too. Really want to travel to Switzerland. Last summer we stopped there to have a break on our way home from Italy. It was beyond words. I loved the energies there.

4/12/2018 08:09:01

Susann, you are going to host us in your new home? Feels very expansive. :) <3

4/12/2018 09:07:41

haha yes, felt into it too and saw this too, also a lot of visitiors - but was told, that before would come something else /smaller. So, if - it will not be tomorrow. ;) But I felt a potential to meet in the Swiss Alps in Morschach, there is a guest house, where a former teacher of me helds her seminars. I felt and feel attracted to this house and place to visit, even I dont join this teachings for some years. And then after reading the comments of Guillem and Sylvia I felt, it could be for that. ... So, if it becomes more clear in me, I can check with you Lauren - but at the moment it still feels to early for me. Lets go some weeks. :-)

4/10/2018 13:27:15

Wow Susann and Sylvia, it is amazing how we all feel attracted to the Alps. There's definitely something in terms of consciousness in there... I checked the Bodensee and yes it's the place I saw - in terms of location, North of Switzerland, South of Germany - while watching Joanna's video. I didn't see a lake or anything but sensed a huge "consciousness pocket" (let's say) a lot of km above the Earth surface. The video kind of mirrored me that... And yes, the foot of the Alps, what a wonderful place to move Susann! <3 :-)

4/11/2018 11:24:18

Amazing

4/12/2018 08:08:06

Field trip???? Guillem - I too am very excited and watching it unfold with anticipation and ease and a little holy shit. Thanks for all your shares these past weeks and willingness to dive in and add passion and wisdom. It is sensed, applied and appreciated.

4/12/2018 19:57:57

So amazing this connection of the location. You guys have me on google maps lol! But seriously.. Guillem! Yes! That's it.. I can't say I tapped into a location so much, but that 'consciousness pocket' you describe is pretty perfect..the light you describe feels just right. And that the rest of you are feeling it too and that area is just incredible!

4/8/2018 12:06:35

whooo .... it all feels so exciting ..... A few years ago, I read an article about BON in the CC Magazine .... while reading I got some kind of inner movie .... I saw BON divided into a limited area (creation: universes, star systems, beings etc.) and an unlimited area (I dont know, maybe what we call divinity). and everything was in a self-contained cloud ....and outside of this BON cloud there were still a few other self-contained clouds and I could sense that there were different creation worlds in each cloud ... I felt that I could have dived into it, but that this could possibly have meant that I should have given up my BON identity (limited or not), because the creations there would not be experienced with the BON Senses ... this all made me so excited ... I wrote the women who had written the articel and had a lot of questions and wanted share with her about this, but I never got an answer ... I also asked two other gyus, but they didnt understand me at this point (maybe it was also because I didn't expressed me clear enough) .... so I pushed it aside .... funnily had tipped in this also some weeks ago here but deletet it :-) .... and now, when I read this posts it felt like a big potential to create such a total new creation cloud ... whooo, whooo .... and that the Banyen Tree (as a place) could be a kind of portal between the BON Cloud and this new Cloud, which feels also totaly new ... in February or so, I dont know what was the topic - multiplicity or so, when I came to the tree I was standing in front of a swirling wall and when I entered it, I was transformed, internally and externally ...on the other side I was also in human form and in himalya with a lot of other beings, so i did not think it had anything to do with the tree .. but now it feels like that the tree can be such a kind of portal ... haha .... I dont know, what and if this has to do with all this here, but this is what I felt during and after reading and it makes my heart soooooo singgggg and excited .... :-) :-) :-)

4/12/2018 08:11:38

Holy wow, Susann. That is an amazing share. I have read it three times and still can't find the words to respond so here is a sensation and a giant THANK YOU!

4/12/2018 08:58:38

Yeah, I realised, that this movie was a view from the I AM. I had more insides in this movie. For instance, when I came back into the BON cloud I could see, how awareness flows from the unlimited into the limited part and then I felt me as part of this awareness and I was flowing through all creation of the limited BON part (universes etc) and I felt such a deep love and amazement. There was no juging in good/bad or dark/light or beauty/ugly - this wasn't even in the field to "think" - just love. And how you described it, there were no desire or reason to change anything - this flowing in was just to bring energies a little bit in motion. ... Also when we were discusing this Crimson Circle group thing and what they are doing and how long - in the next shoud I felt for some time like the energy or the Being behind Adamuy and I felt again such a love for all the group and also what a great gift it is from the creator to give all of it creations absolutly freedom. From this point of view it really doesn't matter, if the group is going this way, that way or any other way, there was just love, gratidute and amazement. .... when you wrote, that we all should come in our I am ness till June, something in me said, o my gosh how to do this - but then I realised, also the becoming has not to unfold linear. :-)

4/12/2018 10:18:57

So fascinating Susann. What a "movie" to see and be a part of. I had to go to the CC glossary to look up the word BON because I couldn't remember what it was, and this helped me understand it better. "The holographic ‘fabric’ of TimeSpace upon which reality is projected. It is prevalent everywhere consciousness is. Plasma comes from Bon, and from plasma come ions, neutrons, etc. Bon is the stage or screen where consciousness can experience itself."
Look forward to hearing more as it comes to you.

4/12/2018 10:43:49

Thank you Karen. You are really a walking dictionary or the curator. :-) Fascinating too. - I am not so familiar with a lot of the CC terms. Took it because it was in this artical and of lack of better words to describe. - it is really so exciting and feels like a surpise bag, what gift and wisdom everyone has to give to this new creation. :-) :-) :-)

4/12/2018 20:42:15

This is so beautifully, incredibly expansive and I can feel myself with you there! No doubt it has something to do with everything here. Would love to hear more about your 'walk through the swirly wall'!
Just wow! Yep, soooo exciting. Can't wait to hear more from you as you see/experience it. :D

Sarah

4/8/2018 12:24:47

Thank you Lauren & Joanna !! When you first mentioned this on Ryver, Lauren, it spoke to me SO deeply and I felt such excitement !! And reading and sensing into this beautiful collaboration, I feel the waves of it again and again !! <3 <3

4/12/2018 08:10:13

and I am patiently waiting for those waves to turn into words...Sarah, thank you for sharing. Even a seemingly simple sentence holds so much consciousness. Thank you! You adding your consciousness is sensed and appreciated.

4/8/2018 12:45:21

How cool is that :-)

4/12/2018 20:47:35

Sooo cool. :D

Maureen

4/9/2018 19:11:57

Well, my first response to this was 'Wow' too. This really has my attention and makes sense to me. I love the way you describe it Joanna. I get the external creations but feel hazy about the internal ones Joanna so would really appreciate you sharing more about that when and if you feel like it.

4/9/2018 22:43:07

I have been reading, more than once, everyone's amazing, amazing replies. Will come back to respond more in a day or two. Love, love everyone's connections to what is happening!

Maureen.. I'm pretty sure there will be a PDF coming about that! ;)

4/12/2018 08:12:59

Thanks so much for sharing Joanna and lending words when I could not capture it in the same light. Day and night I dream, I go into the experience and observe in awe. Words are limited right now but I know you can "hear" me.

4/12/2018 20:53:27

Well, as we know that was just the tip of the iceberg! I'm going in a bit deeper now and see what comes out of it! Words are incredibly limited here no doubt.

Deneen

4/12/2018 12:02:45

I have started to read this article at least 4 times. Today, however, I realized that it was my excitement that was preventing me from really diving in and allowing the content of what was being shared. And, well, wow is a great word for sure. So is, holy shit! And, omg! And Omfg! And, finally! And, I knew it! I knew this existed even before I knew it existed. I resonate with the word Legacy. I know that I have great plans for Me. And a part of those plans is being here with all of you. I cannot tell you yet what that encompasses, however, that is part of the excitement that I have observed these last few days. Sometimes, I feel like I have so much to share that I don’t share at all because I don’t know even where to be begin. This is new for me...allowing the unfiltered. The information that I have received has led me here. Here, under the Banyan tree with all of you. And, there are no limits to the ways in which I receive information. Always in love and deep gratitude of myself and all of you, xoxo.

4/12/2018 21:02:02

Daneeeeeen! :D "I knew it!" cracked me up. I'm pretty super stoked that we are both here and I totally want hear what you have to say about it all!

4/13/2018 12:47:37

oops, I spelled your name wrong lol

4/13/2018 08:07:35

Truly, wow, Deneen. Thank you.

Xavi

4/13/2018 02:08:19

Joanna I read a few times all this post of A Call For Wisdom with your comments and I can only say that I have a large question mark floating above my head. I do not have any awareness of what you are talking about, but I do have a couple of questions for you to review.
The first is: You say that the Banyan Tree would have its own Soul created by our Wisdom. Do not you mean that the Banyan Tree is a Composite Being like Yeshua? Because as I know the spiritual physics, it can not be that the word you seek is Soul. If it is not a Composite Being, perhaps it is an Archetype like the Archangels?

The second is: About the pure consciousness you mentioned. You mean we are doing a reset but keeping Wisdom and Awareness? Something to like to cancel all our Creation of the Second Circle and charge the Wisdom to be able to advance, as you say, towards new experiences, perhaps the Third Circle?

Another one of what Lauren suggests is if the Banyan Tree could be a portal to another Civilization type Avalon, Atlantis etc. Well, it is my perspective that these are civilizations of the human past, but as the creation goes backwards and not forward, if this were a portal it would be more towards some kind of advanced civilization like the Arcturians. And although there have been channels from them for decades, I wonder, if perhaps all this information does not come from the human "future".
I base myself on all this, because Adamus commented on the last Pro Gnost that at this precise moment of our history on Earth the future races of the universe would be created.
Recall that when the I Am came to the void, he asked "Who am I?" And the creation exploded. All the races, all the universes, all the dimensions were already there. So the I Am wanted to understand how all that came to be and began to create bodies formed with the same energy that each creation to inhabit those creations from within and go to the beginning of everything to know how it came to be (go back); while the I Am by its side experiences these creations from outside with a Sense. (Each Sense was created to experience each reality).

Note: Arcturians represent a human race with the maximum development of Consciousness that can reach the human being, which is their New Age terms is the Fifth Dimension. So they are the Archetype of human perfection at the level of Consciousness, or in other words, to the maximum that humanity can aspire to.

4/13/2018 02:25:16

Just to clarify I am not saying that the Banyan Tree does not have its own Consciousness; that we know each other and I know how you react. Having Consciousness does not mean that you have to have a Soul.
For example, your pets are a creation of your soul, they are part of you, they have Consciousness but they do not have Soul.
Even a stone has Consciousness, very basic but it has it. A stone is aware of its shape, composition, solidity, etc.
That's why I suggest that Soul can not be the word you're looking for to describe this.
And if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me without biting me for it.

Thanks

4/13/2018 12:08:10

Hey Xavi... I have a longer answer for this, but for now just a couple things....no biting necessary lol

1. I use soul/consciousness interchangeably. Soul was the word used before, so thought I'd just go along with it. However, what I feel about this is beyond any of these terms, but for now these are the terms we have. This is going to definitely be about 'forget everything you learned'. There is no way that what we are doing here is going to fit into any pre-conceived or learned definitions that we have created for the human understanding. I think soul was used because there was lack of a better word at the time. I see what we are creating as a 'place of existence' from this collective sovereign consciousness and Lauren said to ponder that it could be an archetypical realm..but it's created from a different consciousness than the others.

2. I have lots more to say about this and am beginning the writing, so this will have to wait a bit. This article is the tip of the iceberg. I can say this very strongly though: whatever it is will not fit into the mind as it is right now for you. EVER. There is absolutely no box that you can lock this into. What is being asked here is to simply sink into and feel what is there...the potentials and possibilities. And get used to everything changing, morphing and contradicting itself. Very briefly: When we first started creating we did not create from sovereignty...yes all that was created in the beginning was already there...including sovereignty, but it's taking some beings (human and otherwise) some time to access what's available to them. And so they interfere. This new place of existence and creation is created as a collaboration of sovereign beings.. we have the boundary-less consciousness and it cannot be messed with, as the ones who still feel the need to mess with it cannot see it. The very same happens within any being who chooses sovereignty consciousness and this is now being trickled to earth so we can experience it here too and bring it into human awareness. So it can be archetypical as is Avalon, Egypt whatever, but without the interference and the other crap that comes along with creating from a place of boundaries and battles.

Oh, and it has nothing to do with advancing anywhere...there is no advancing in the I AM, there is only creation. You could say that it is a creation FROM the so called third circle.

4/13/2018 13:38:12

Fair enough. Thanks Joanna you make me see things I did not see and I will need time to integrate it.

"whatever it is will not fit into the mind as it is right now for you. EVER. There is absolutely no box that you can lock this into. What is being asked here is to simply sink into and feel what is there"

"we have the boundary-less consciousness and it cannot be messed with, as the ones who still feel the need to mess with it cannot see it."

Thank you again

4/13/2018 20:07:14

I so enjoyed reading what you had to write Jo! Because i am on the bus...will write more later, lol!
Beautiful!

4/13/2018 03:57:43

At the moment I feel that I am not so much in the details that I can not say anything exactly about your questions, Xavi.
For me, in the last few days, the picture keeps coming together, Adamus was told everything. You're needing the breaching, that it's possible to switch. But also that you first come across the old earth to be able to stay longer on the new page. I want to see through it again.
I think I've been touring the jungle on vacation in South America, and this time sometimes - oh wow, how interesting and exciting you have to be, come here as a human and not knowing it was before you, was to discover it gives. And how bad it is that this is no longer possible, every angle is confirmed. Later came the inner voice, but we do that now with a new consciousness.

And now the old creative cloud feels the same way. Like an old playground, where we have explored and discovered everything and now we are bored. We've got to renovate the old playground, redesign it, etc. (while Lauren talked about it in her last video - and it just flew over her nose) Nothing worked. But the more parts (souls) have the feeling, it is good, have experienced everything, I was wanting and having reconnected with the I, the more intense the desire for something new and that has created a new new cloud.
And now we are in the process of exploring this. And our love for the old cloud has not just cut us off, but we've created a way to bring all the pieces from the old cloud into our new creation. If the parts that are still playing in the old creation are ready, they can easily switch. And the parts that are already playing in the new cloud can carry your knowledge as well as the knowledge of the new cloud into the old cloud.
And achieving that, the new cloud has also become easy for the old proportions, as far as they choose, and is getting easier and easier.
The transitional gates are the two earths old and new earth. And from the new earth can then be opened up the new scope (the looks for me but still quite dark and unlit :-))
What becomes of the old creative cloud - who knows, whatever the parts want to choose. I see a potential that in the end all parts change into the new creation and so the old creation cloud dies by itself, because there is no consciousness on it. Or there is such a boost that both clouds connect and merge. Or the old cloud will persist for a long, long time, and new forms will develop (though they may feel rather heavy and limited). - but it really does not matter, because each share has the opportunity to continue experimenting wherever it wants. :-)
Mmhhh ... and I do not know if the new computer man is really a step forward, from which new wisdom springs, which we want to use in the new creation / - but if so - also great - it is up to us what potential we choose. :-)

Mmhhh - do not have the feeling that we now have to "laboriously" collect the knowledge from all the individual soul families. I rather see how fantastic the creation of earth is already, since all wisdom from the entire cloud of creation is already stored and collected here. So also have the feeling that when we collect the wisdom from the high times of the earth - because everything is already in it.

I wrote it in German and translated it via google - so I hope it is readable

4/13/2018 06:12:57

Sussan I think that what you have written is understood quite well, thank you for responding.

4/13/2018 12:17:15

Susann! Just love what you wrote and how you are seeing it. Taking note and loving the cloud vocabulary that is making it into the document, as well as what you wrote. This is sooo fun! You are adding a dimension and attribute that I wouldn't have seen otherwise! wahooo!

4/13/2018 12:37:51

And I think I kinda almost repeated what you said.. but I like your words better here haha. :)

4/14/2018 03:16:59

Whhoooo .... thanks a lot Joanna. Yes it is such a fun. Looking forward of your and Laurens writings and from all the others in June and later, to explore more of it. ... and it is so beautiful that I can start to allow to write and share from my heart and to have the feeling of beeing understood (caused a lot of doubt in me before) and also not to be told, I'm too much. :-) .... And I really love your writings and shares in your words a lot too. Opens up my view immensly to explore it also in other pictures/describtions. :-)

4/13/2018 03:58:45

Oh, wanted to share a little tree experience. In November when Lauren invited her to her birthday party, I thought on the "way", oh, maybe I should bring a present, maybe, not, what's appropriate and what not etc. And still while my mind is still in his blahblahablah it suddenly made it plopp and right from my heart in my hand appeared a beautiful gift. I had not thought about what it should look like or what it might be. But it was really great and it was such a joy - a creative boost from the heart. Lauren wrote the next day that she did not want any presents. So I just put it under the tree. :-) .... Oh, and Adamus said in the next Shoud that he is not sure if it's even possible to make a heart-piercing call on the old Earth right now because of its high density.

4/13/2018 04:16:02

Oh, wanted to share a little tree experience. In November when Lauren invited her to her birthday party, I thought on the "way", oh, maybe I should bring a present, maybe, not, what's appropriate and what not etc. And still while my mind is still in his blahblahablah it suddenly made it plopp and right from my heart in my hand appeared a beautiful gift. I had not thought about what it should look like or what it might be. But it was really great and it was such a joy - a creative boost from the heart. Lauren wrote the next day that she did not want any presents. So I just put it under the tree. :-) .... And I knew, that as long as someone enjoyed it, it will be there and then it will pass - like the old playground. Oh, and Adamus said in the next Shoud that he is not sure if it's even possible to make a heart-piercing call on the old Earth right now because of its high density.

4/13/2018 08:08:29

Finally got round to reading what everyone has to share and WOW! This is so exciting to feel into further...more to sit with for me.

A CALL FOR WISDOM: Joanna + Lauren

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